And in any case, Netflix does’t certify Projectors yet. So even asking TPV (the one who has the Philips licence for TVs) to give us their PCBA, we wouldn’t be ok to use Netflix as this is a new device. Also, you need to have a sub licence agreement for Google ANdroid TV
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Hi mate, well in the Indiegogo page it refers to official Philips… Do they cheated us all?
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It’s called brand licensing. It’s like marriage, you marry someone and take their name, but you’re still the family you were born in. For some purposes like taxes everybody will see your married name, when it comes to inheritance cases it’s your maiden name that counts.
Screeneo = Philips when it comes to projectors, like
TPV = Philips when it comes to TVs, or
Signify = Philips when it comes to Hue lighting products.
But the companies like Google and Netflix don’t care about the Brand (Married) name, they’ll make arrangements with the actual companies and have done so with TPV for the TV’s but not with Screeneo for projectors. Google just didn’t, Netflix didn’t do so for any projector on the market (when the PicoPix Max was being developed and created).
And no, no one was cheated or lied to by the Indiegogo campaign using the name Philips. Screeneo is married to Philips when it comes to projectors and has every right to use that name in every way they see fit and are allowed to by their brand licensing contract.
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I may not know what I am talking about, BUT I just bought the Xiaomi Mi Smart Compact Projector for my workplace, and it has a DEDICATED NETFLIX BUTTON on the remote!
How can you keep saying that they don’t have Netflix yet on Android TV?!
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So it means that they got the Netlfix licence not so long time ago. There are many reviews on Youtube made 1 month ago showing a remote without Netflix buttons
In any case on our side, we can’t go back to Android TV.
We are working now our our next product roadmap for 2020 2021
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I hear Google will soon release a brand new Android TV platform which will make the old one EOL pretty quick. Maybe aim to implement that as the smart function in the future.
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Will the new lineup have Netflix and or Android TV?
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Some Linux (entry), some Android AOSP (mid range) and high tier with Android TV.
We are now fighting with Netflix to get the certification approved.
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If you had to choose:
- do you prefer a projector with Google Android TV, no Netflix
- or a projector like Max, Android AOSP, Netflix Full HD
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I want Android TV knowing that there are many more options than JUST Netflix to worry about.
Interesting and good to know but if I were you I’d try to bring all projectors to a unified software platform, that would help you refine the experience, keep things modular and keep supporting all models for longer without increasing the cost of maintenance and updates.
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we can’t its a matter of costs. linux doesnt need a lot or memory, Android AOSP is around 10-15USD but Android TV requires 2.5 times the price
Hmm, I see, that’s a fair point. Try doing a poll or research to confirm this but I think many customers would prefer to pay a bit extra to get a good experience and if you can pass along those costs to customers, that would be a big win for you overall. This is one of those decisions where you can decide whether you want to be like the rest of the market or truly be above the rest because:
- Easier for users to upgrade from one device to another due to familiar interface and experience
- Maintenance efforts decreased greatly due to same platform
- Reduced fragmentation for engineers
- Easier update lifecycle
- Easier application support
- Increased brand loyalty
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I for one would be glad to pay an additional 50 USD to get Android TV on the box, if that was an option.
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Please setup a poll to properly track the two options. Personally, I would go for Android TV and have all Google services working. Apps that crash have a negative impact on the projector’s reputation
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I would pay the extra for a longer life span OS and easier UX.
I do love the PPM, but the ‘hacks’ (bit harsh I know) don’t suit a product of this quality.
I hope when the OS stops getting official support, we can get Google services on it unofficially.
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So with this $1400 CAD projector, it was a $50 cost difference that made it not have Android TV… Am I reading that right?
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Now I’m sure no matter what anyone says about google services or complaints about it, lets just face it, it’s too late so we have to live with that fact,
But what I would like to see is at least make up for it with what users are asking for,
Regular updates and most importantly the features and suggestions category here, how many are actually being considered? Is this space just a waste of time? what are we voting for? some feedback would be great,
We lost out on google services fine it can’t be done google won’t cooperate etc, then at least do what is achievable, and most of the most voted ones here can be done, then do it!
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I would guess Google Android TV if that would mean better controller support / UX and future upgrades along with official google stack. Normally I lauch netflix via kodi on an intel stick via HDMI because I want a good UX.
But sorry again, why would netflix not work on the TV OS version?
Netflix makes their own App and don’t build it on the Google Services platform. They do offer Netflix out on many devices but only the 540p version. Netflix are very picky about 1080p or higher and they set within the App which devices are allowed to use it. A lot of the Android TV products available are not certified by Google and are seen as a bit of a hack. Netflix will only really put a product on their supported list if they have sold a lot of products and know it can’t have software loaded to rip the video streaming.
The best thing Philips could do at the moment is try a get the picopix max compliant for Google Services on AOSP but I’m not sure Google will do it as they only allow it for AOSP on devices which are phones and tablets. To be honest Google need to sort out their platform requirements as they are just encouraging AOSP to fail commercially and people will just break and work round Googles poor support which is a bad thing for Google as work arounds opens up security and patching issues which just gives Google a bad name in the long run.
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