May Summary, click to open
Summary for 2020-05-30, click to open
The names for the lists came about after I proposed the use of names for the lists when I joined the Philips Projection team.
Before that, the lists sent to the forwarders just referred to the amount of pieces they allocated. That probably works just fine in logistics, but I couldn’t wrap my head around it. Before that I had started calling the pre-notification lists List 1, List 2, List 3 on the forum, so when I proposed this to PhilipsNono and The Listmaker , they agreed, and it made our communication instantly better. What I wasn’t counting on though was for the updates to be incremental on the same file. I was hoping we would just release a new List 4, List 5, etc. Instead we ended up updating List 3 with extra backers. No problem, people could still find themselves, the whole list was gonna ship.
Fast forward to yesterday. I got the updates from the meeting our representative had with the forwarders. They gave an update about the shipments by using the piece count for the lists. Now I had a problem: I couldn’t expect backers to count or find l some other way to figure out when their units might ship. So I decided to add a column to the sheet, and put the internal name of the lists in it, hoping this could give a sense of which batch we were referring to.
But as I said two posts ago, the forwarders might have some Amy, Laurent, Jordan, and Betty all together in one flight to the EU for instance, because Betty, Jordan, Laurent and Amy all have units still in their warehouse.
So that name is telling you something, but it might also mean nothing in the actual process of getting your pledge to you.
I’ve created a new FAQ list of questions that I noticed in several threads. Please read before posting in case your query had already been addressed: [FAQ] Tracking and Shipping
Hello guys,
I just uploaded 1,328 tracking numbers.
We are waiting for more of them within few hours.
Summary for 2020-05-29, click to open
Dear Backers,
As previously said, the production is now 99% finished and we are now accelerating the shipping plan. We’ve however been having difficulties recently in reaching our forwarders and getting timely updates from them. This has reached a point that we decided to send a Chinese-speaking representative to speak with them directly at their offices in China earlier on Thursday, and we had a very fruitful outcome from this meeting in terms of information gathering.
We now have a lot of information to share with you. We apologize that not all of this information is what you had expected, and some of it is not the same as what we have understood and communicated in the past.
What is important is that we now have a much better understanding of what is going on, and we know where the problems are that need to be fixed, and are proceeding in fixing these.
Before we go into the details the whole team at Philips Projection would like to apologize for the delays and sometimes apparent lack of communication, and the frustration created by them in the backers waiting for their shipments. I’m the one posting this but know that I’m speaking for all of Philips Projection in saying this.
- For all the international air cargo shipments so far, shipping space is very limited, and our forwarder hasn’t managed to actually keep the shipments happening on the dates previously communicated to and by us. High workload on their part has prevented them from letting us know of their efforts in these regards earlier, they have promised however to keep us better informed of all successes and setbacks alike from now on.
Specifically the following batches have the following status:
- List 3 , Batch named Jordan : Shipping for this batch will happen as follows:
The European part will fly on Monday June 1st with the regular procedure arriving at DHL Germany.
The non-European part will all ship direct via DHL Hong Kong, shipments starting now and spread over the next few days- List 3 , Batches named Laurent and Amy : Shipping for these batches will happen as follows:
The European part will fly on Saturday June 6th with the regular procedure arriving at DHL Germany.
The non-European part will all ship direct via DHL Hong Kong, shipments starting soon and spread over the next few days after
- Russia : 15 backers are already on their way via a different courier. The 60 remaining backers were not shipped yet, however the forwarder promised that they will be picked up and begin transit to Russia on Saturday, May 30th.
They will confirm to us when they are picked up and will confirm that all 60 backers are included in this shipment.- Brazil : we are close to landing another logistics partner, who will do the shipping for these units. Shipping should take 8-10 days. However, we still need the Taxpayer number (CPF in Brazil) for about 19 backers, @IvoGrijt will manage this and approach the relevant backers, and keep all Brazilian backers informed.
- We have received a list with lots of new “ special problems ”, so we can now start and continue to act on these (units returned to sender from UPS/DHL, Zip Code issues, and others). Some are relatively easy to solve with the help of the backers involved, for others we have to put our thinking caps on and get creative. Each backer involved will be invited to an unlisted thread discussing the problem and possible solutions. Also, we still have a dozen of Taiwanese resident without any Chinese name and CCID number.
- Hong Kong deliveries : The reason these are taking so long is because our forwarder is actually using their China warehouse and not one in Hong Kong. So they ship all units into HK, and then give them to Kerry Express for the individual shipments.
We’ve been told that the delays are coming from the customs clearance as the products enter HK. We’ve been offered the services of a company in HK for customer support, HK customers who have urgent, specific problems can get contact details from @IvoGrijt upon request.- Saudi Arabia : we were told all Express deliveries (were?) / are stopped and it seems to be because of their festival Eid Al-Fitr. We’ve been informed we only can arrange the shipments beginning early June, we’re not sure of the exact date at this moment.
We will follow up with the forwarder and let you know the status early June or as soon as we do have the information. We are not sure if this applies to other countries in the area as well but will let you know if that’s the case.Please note that no further action from the individual backers is needed, unless specifically invited to provide extra information by @IvoGrijt
Everyone will be included on the list by next week, as we finish our production run. Then it becomes a matter of actually shipping them out to you guys.
Summary for 2020-05-28, click to open
News
Hello backers, we have posted 701 new Indiegogo Contribution ID here
No we will add more. But this one is pré final one. Still some missing backers
Concerning the missing tracking numbers we are still waiting for more than 3000. We are pushing our forwarder everyday
Summary for 2020-05-26, click to open
The logistics procedures our forwarder is using for shipments to Europe are very typical for these campaigns: We transfer product to them in HK. They prepare each individual PPM for delivery with shipping labels and all. As they prepare the PPMs for delivery, each one is already assigned a DHL tracking number, which goes into the DHL system.
Then the PPM are put into master cartons and onto pallets for one large bulk shipment all together to Europe, where they eventually end up in the German warehouse of our forwarder. Here they are unpacked to the individual PPMs and picked up by DHL. That is when your tracking numbers finally go live.
There are a lot of steps in the shipment of the products around the world, and we don’t always know where they are. Our forwarder is also not always clear to us about what is going on.
There are a lot of risk of unplanned delays, such as delays in being put onto a plane in HK, in EU customs clearance and at the final warehouse where the master cartons need to be unpacked again. If DHL Germany is busy, they apparently can be very slow to pick up the PPMs, as well.
No, only Europe is routed through Germany. US/CA has another hub somewhere in the US, but same procedure
We are pushing our forwarder for updates on Russia and Brazil. In principle, shipments should be underway, but we want official confirmation from our forwarder to be sure.
Exactly. They are on their way to Germany, where the will be handed over to DHL. Then your tracking number will go live. It seems like the shipments to Germany have been taking 2-4 weeks, so you probably won’t hear anything until the 2nd week of June.
Summary for 2020-05-25, click to open
Dear all,
We finished the production for all the PicoPix Max as expected.
The last batch is being QC today
We are waiting for the remaining tracking numbers.
Summary for 2020-05-20, click to open
NEWS
- QC Passed for the 1760
- We are preparing the list for those devices
- 926 will be send first, 74 for Russia and 760 next week
- We are still waiting for the tracking numbers of the current shipment (18th)
we didnt send all tracking numbers yet
we are finishing the production this week so everyone will be inside. @IvoGrijt is being sure that we don’t miss anyone.
yes! just waiting on the tracking numbers
Summary for 2020-05-18, click to open
- 1800 tracking numbers will be available today
- we will receive the rest of the trackings within 2 days
- 1,660 devices are being QC today instead of 1000
- the Contribution ID list for those 1,660 will be updated within 24h
- 149 tracking numbers are being uploaded (the one for HK and Singapore)
- we will receive the rest of the trackings within 2 days
- 1,750 devices are being QC today instead of 1000
- the Contribution ID list for those 1,750 will be updated within 24h
only EU backers in the tracking we received today
For information, the highest Indiegogo Contribution ID is 21,543
@Philips_Support_N Did the “rest of the world" shipment actually happen as planned on the 16th?
Yes it’s on DHL warehouse now being handled. We should have the tracking numbers within 48h
Summary for 2020-05-14, click to open
- 1200 new devices will be ready for inspection next Monday
- 1624 + 1200 pieces batch: EU ship on the 18th, rest of the world: 16th
- 1320 batch: will ship on the 22nd
Summary for 2020-05-12, click to open
1384 new devices passed QC today. We have 184 extra ones compared to the estimation.
Packing starts tomorrow ( List 4 )
Summary for 2020-05-11, click to open
Good news: we may have 1200 pieces in 2 days for QC
We ordered 1800 new light engine to finish the production (last backers)
We decided to wait to get more units. 1200 instead of 1000
We will add 180 new devices tonight for HK and Singapore in the current List 3
number of devices: 14,469
Number of backers: 14,428 (distributors removed)
We dont have the List 4 yet for the 1200. We always prepare the list as soon as the QC is passed for a batch.
This message is from our forwarder regarding the tracking labels that are not working (List 2):
- DHL lost the devices in their warehouse: they are scanning them now and should be OK tomorrow
- Same for some product stuck in HK: tracking will be OK within 24h
Regarding List 3: We will try to reship on the 18th of May, as the flight on the 10th was cancelled.
We just updated List 3 with 180 new HK and SG backers.
Regarding List 2: Everything was given to DHL, the lost ones were sitting on DHL warehouse waiting to be scanned… They are very slow these days. So your tracking should’ve changed by now.
From what our forwarder told us, DHL is now active on the remaining devices from the 10th of April shipment (List 2)
Summary for 2020-05-09, click to open
This week, we had a pretty long discussion with our supplier:
- We found the solution for the missing FPGA component (it had been impossible to purchase it for 3 weeks, but we had a stock of 3K). Now the supply of those is OK.
- He agreed to deliver (manufacture) 100% of all backers’ units to us before the 30th of May.
We are still pushing him everyday and our team in China is also inspecting the factory everyday.
- 1000 new pieces are ready for inspection on the 11th!
Summary for 2020-05-08, click to open
104 pieces for HK going in the truck now
- HK: 101 persons just received their tracking number. 104 devices totally. Tracking will be active tomorrow morning with Kerry Express.
- EU: 1189 shipment tomorrow ( List 3 )
- ROW (rest of the world): will need to go to HK first for DHL picking
all products for EU (even CH), are going through Germany.
CH is inside EU for logistics. And yes, the origin is HK, because it goes from HK to Germany, then Germany to all EU countries
- We again have 180 new devices to add into the current 1624, 1200, 104 units ( List 3 ).
- Those 180 will be only for HK (tax reason as the devices are already in HK)
Shipped: 7420
Being shipped: 3108
In production and need to be shipped: around 4600
Total number of devices:
14469
Summary for 2020-05-07, click to open
Our 1200 new pieces passed the QC and are now being packed!
An excellent video highlighting some of the behind the scenes issues with international shipping since the Covid-19 outbreak.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2oPk20OHBE
Software Update v1.1.0 is available now!
Summary for 2020-05-06, click to open
Dear all, here is the updated List 3 for the next shipments
1624+104 (104: only HongKong: goods are already in HK)
1000 (QC on the 6th) are now integrated in the link
This list will move a little bit in the coming 48hGood news: we have also 200 new pieces ready today for inspection, we will add those 200 units on the backer file within today
ON the 14th of May: we should have 1,500 more devices to inspect
seems Israel is OK. We are checking now with our forwarder
Added 200 new people.List 3 updated
A little explainer as to how the shipping of the projectors actually works:
These packages in a shipment have been handed over to the forwarder Philips Projection uses in Hong Kong, who creates the tracking labels with DHL and prints them out so they can label each and every one of the boxes.
As soon as they have the labels on the boxes, they send the list to PhilipsNono. As soon as the packages are about to ship, he uploads the Tracking labels to Backerkit. As soon as that happens you get notified. Now all you have to keep doing is being patient. Things don’t always proceed as fast as you may have been used to pre_Covid19, it has taken other shipments of these up to 4 weeks to actually arrive, 3 of which went without any change in the tracking situation.
DHL will always give the standard answer “only created but not actually picked up” because technically that’s the case: they don’t have the packages in their distribution hubs, so these packages won’t show as being in their process flow. The forwarder booked a flight to get the packages to the hubs, and got them on the plane. Their overseas counterparts now have to get them through customs and then to the DHL hub. Only then will DHL scan the packages into their system and consider them in their possession, and will the tracking information update.
Summary for 2020-05-05, click to open
Dear all, here is the updated list for the next shipments
- 1624+104 (104: only HongKong: goods are already in HK): List 3
- 1000 (QC on the 6th) are now integrated in the link
This list will move a little bit in the coming 48h
for the previous List 2 : DHL was on holidays and now scanning again the device in Germany and in HK for rest of the world
those still stuck are being handled. DHL is just taking very long. The ones with a tracking numbers are either at DHL in HK for shipment in Asia, or in Germany for shipping in EU. We are calling everyday DHL to press them. Also, not all backers are on this forum, a lot of them already received their devices from this batch.